Comments on: Answering the LGP DRM questions/2009/02/27/answering-the-lgp-drm-questions/ Commercial gaming for Linux Sun, 08 Mar 2009 07:34:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: S.Brennan/2009/02/27/answering-the-lgp-drm-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-103 S.Brennan Fri, 06 Mar 2009 10:37:05 +0000 /?p=115#comment-103 I fully support LPG with this DRM method. Given the issues I've experienced with other companies on the Windows platform, I have to say that I like what LPG has come up with. It's non-intrusive, adds benefits to the user, and presumes you are innocent until proven guilty. I wish more companies would use similar methods of DRM with their products. I fully support LPG with this DRM method. Given the issues I’ve experienced with other companies on the Windows platform, I have to say that I like what LPG has come up with. It’s non-intrusive, adds benefits to the user, and presumes you are innocent until proven guilty. I wish more companies would use similar methods of DRM with their products.

]]> By: Patrick/2009/02/27/answering-the-lgp-drm-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-98 Patrick Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:31:32 +0000 /?p=115#comment-98 Thank you for answering my questions. :) Thank you for answering my questions. :)

]]> By: W. Simmons/2009/02/27/answering-the-lgp-drm-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-96 W. Simmons Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:29:27 +0000 /?p=115#comment-96 Nice, I like that. Reminds me on how id Software does it. Kudos! Nice, I like that. Reminds me on how id Software does it. Kudos!

]]> By: Michael Simms (CEO and head of Development)/2009/02/27/answering-the-lgp-drm-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-95 Michael Simms (CEO and head of Development) Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:07:50 +0000 /?p=115#comment-95 Yeah I meant that we would like to move to a system where you can either a) have a game in a box, b) have it download only, or c) a combination of both. I'd personally never stop doing the boxed versions, cos I just really like getting a physical box with a game in! As for the id games, I doubt it will ever happen, but we can always hope! Yeah I meant that we would like to move to a system where you can either a) have a game in a box, b) have it download only, or c) a combination of both. I’d personally never stop doing the boxed versions, cos I just really like getting a physical box with a game in!

As for the id games, I doubt it will ever happen, but we can always hope!

]]> By: Patrick/2009/02/27/answering-the-lgp-drm-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-94 Patrick Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:06:26 +0000 /?p=115#comment-94 What does "download-only" mean? Does it mean you'll only offer the game as a digital download, so there'll be no retail version of that game? Or does it mean you can choose to buy the retail version (plus the right to re-download the game) or a download-only game (so you don't have to pay any shipping costs)? I hope the last option is the right answer. For me a retail version is very important. I only want to pay for a boxed version. I really don't like digital distribution. A wish from me: I hope there'll come some day where games from id Software are published by LGP. I like id Softwares games, but I don't like I have to buy the Windows version and download their Linux-installer, especially since their games are now published by EA who use a very bad form of DRM. It'd be really nice if RAGE and Wolfenstein would be published by LGP and I could just buy the Linux-version without sponsoring EA and Microsoft. What does “download-only” mean? Does it mean you’ll only offer the game as a digital download, so there’ll be no retail version of that game? Or does it mean you can choose to buy the retail version (plus the right to re-download the game) or a download-only game (so you don’t have to pay any shipping costs)?

I hope the last option is the right answer. For me a retail version is very important. I only want to pay for a boxed version. I really don’t like digital distribution.

A wish from me:
I hope there’ll come some day where games from id Software are published by LGP. I like id Softwares games, but I don’t like I have to buy the Windows version and download their Linux-installer, especially since their games are now published by EA who use a very bad form of DRM. It’d be really nice if RAGE and Wolfenstein would be published by LGP and I could just buy the Linux-version without sponsoring EA and Microsoft.

]]> By: Michael Simms (CEO and head of Development)/2009/02/27/answering-the-lgp-drm-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-93 Michael Simms (CEO and head of Development) Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:58:53 +0000 /?p=115#comment-93 Heh, well, we do have a bit of security through obscurity, so I cant go into a lot of detail, but what I can say is that, in broad terms, it tries to verify your key/password is valid each time you start, but that's where the innocent until proven guilty part comes in. If it cannot connect to the keyserver (which it tries to do in a number of ways), then it assumes you are innocent. This is where our DRM differs, we assume you have the right to play unless it is proved you don't, whereas most assume you don't until you prove you do. It makes ours less secure, but it means nobody is locked out unless they really deserve it. We'd rather have less security than have a legit player locked out of playing the game. Heh, well, we do have a bit of security through obscurity, so I cant go into a lot of detail, but what I can say is that, in broad terms, it tries to verify your key/password is valid each time you start, but that’s where the innocent until proven guilty part comes in. If it cannot connect to the keyserver (which it tries to do in a number of ways), then it assumes you are innocent. This is where our DRM differs, we assume you have the right to play unless it is proved you don’t, whereas most assume you don’t until you prove you do.
It makes ours less secure, but it means nobody is locked out unless they really deserve it. We’d rather have less security than have a legit player locked out of playing the game.

]]> By: W. Simmons/2009/02/27/answering-the-lgp-drm-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-92 W. Simmons Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:23:40 +0000 /?p=115#comment-92 I don't understand it. If I can install (enter the key and choose a password) and play the game without needing to be online, how would someone else changing the password matter (my copy would never be aware of that change)? How would someone else even be able to change a password that is only stored locally? I think I am just missing something. If this is in a FAQ somewhere, please feel free to simply link me there. :-) I don’t understand it.

If I can install (enter the key and choose a password) and play the game without needing to be online, how would someone else changing the password matter (my copy would never be aware of that change)? How would someone else even be able to change a password that is only stored locally?

I think I am just missing something. If this is in a FAQ somewhere, please feel free to simply link me there. :-)

]]> By: Michael Simms (CEO and head of Development)/2009/02/27/answering-the-lgp-drm-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-91 Michael Simms (CEO and head of Development) Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:51:06 +0000 /?p=115#comment-91 You get the key on the manual, you make up your own password. If you were to give the key and password to friends, then they will then have the ability to change the password, and if they do, you are then locked out of your own game as the password stored in your system will be invalid. You get the key on the manual, you make up your own password.

If you were to give the key and password to friends, then they will then have the ability to change the password, and if they do, you are then locked out of your own game as the password stored in your system will be invalid.

]]> By: W. Simmons/2009/02/27/answering-the-lgp-drm-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-90 W. Simmons Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:15:59 +0000 /?p=115#comment-90 So I get the key and password when I purchase? What keeps me from giving key, password and the files to friends? So I get the key and password when I purchase? What keeps me from giving key, password and the files to friends?

]]> By: Michael Simms (CEO and head of Development)/2009/02/27/answering-the-lgp-drm-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-89 Michael Simms (CEO and head of Development) Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:44:21 +0000 /?p=115#comment-89 Well, Ive not seem their 'bill of rights' before, but looking at it: We adhere completely to points: 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7 (with this system), 8, 9 Point 3 is not relevant, as we are providing a port, we do not have the right to provide changes to the gameplay, we can only make it the same as the original. We do our best to fix any problems that arise, but as a small company making games for the most diverse platform in computing, sometimes we just cannot do it and some customers very occasionally, will just have to ask for their money back. Point 10 we exceed as with this system you can transfer the rights to digital-only games, as well as physical games. OK right now we do not have any download-only games but in future we plan to. Well, Ive not seem their ‘bill of rights’ before, but looking at it:

We adhere completely to points: 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7 (with this system), 8, 9

Point 3 is not relevant, as we are providing a port, we do not have the right to provide changes to the gameplay, we can only make it the same as the original. We do our best to fix any problems that arise, but as a small company making games for the most diverse platform in computing, sometimes we just cannot do it and some customers very occasionally, will just have to ask for their money back.

Point 10 we exceed as with this system you can transfer the rights to digital-only games, as well as physical games. OK right now we do not have any download-only games but in future we plan to.

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